We gave he first, second, eighth, and thirteenth films the same rankings, even if fourteen is not counted. Also our rankings of five, eleven, and twelve were really close.
We disagreed the most with films six, seven, and nine. For The Secret of Saurus Rock he called it “boring and uninspired.” I personally do find it exciting and inspired, but it has plenty of padding, so I can see people finding it boring easily. The worst part of his article is his review of seven, which is just briefly insulting the name “rainbow face” ignoring its allusions to alien beliefs, and the rest of the film. His review of nine makes it obvious he loves underwater scenes in movies, and I personally did enjoy the underwater scenes in Nine, but I prefer them in Finding Nemo and Pinocchio.
His rankings are an alternative to mine, and the only complete ones I can find online, though they are all a paragraph long at most (except for thirteen, which got two paragraphs), and overly short for my taste.
At nighttime Cera wakes up to hear Sharptooth. Eventually everyone is up but Littlefoot, but he comes around later while insisting there is no sharptooth.
The shot of a crushed tree star is surprisingly long. I think that it symbolizes the need to go on without material possessions. Ironically it is just a symbol if not eaten. As a symbol of Littlefoot’s mother it also is a call back to Sharptooth killing her. I heard that in the deleted scenes he ate her body. Littlefoot makes up for his past mistake by getting Spike through a hole and directing theme in that direction in the first place, which Sharptooth got stuck on. That does not stop Cera from calling it his fault, but Littlefoot sees a rock that looks like a longneck (referenced in 5 and 13), which he knows is part of the way. They then continue on with triumphant music playing, and the animation makes it obvious this is a very physically tough journey through tough terrain. In one notable shot Littlefoot makes himself a dinosaur bridge, which Spike, Ducky, and Petrie take, but Cera goes around through a tougher path. Music is played at the top as if they are there only to find a little wasteland. Not knowing that The Great Valley is literally on top of the other group of rocks Cera leaves. “I am taking the easy way for once.” Ironically she just took an unnecessarily tough path, and she did it at the gorge to not follow Littlefoot. She is going out of her way to not take the best path, but she normally does go with Littlefoot. The problem is she now wants to go the wrong way due to its ease. Based on later evidence she probably does think it goes to The Great Valley. She eventually insults Littlefoot (not new, and he does not care) and his mother. That sets up a fight, where Spike humorously tries to hide (comic relief is appreciated here). Littlefoot and Cera’s fight goes back and forth until Littlefoot tries to leave, and Cera sucker slams him. Ducky, Spike, and Petrie also decide to go the easy way. Petrie tries to get Littlefoot to go with them, but Littlefoot stays with the path.
According to the lost footage after this Littlefoot went over the rocks and found The Great Valley. After playing in a water fall he goes back to save his friends. I heard he goes back due to hearing his mother’s voice (knowing it is what she would want). I preferred the idea that when he got there he realized he had to go back. It makes slightly more sense in the narration, but the change of order keeps a clear finish. It does cost a villainous motivation (more on that later), but that is overall not needed. What it does cost is a very happy scene amidst a very low point, but I could certainly handle all this darkness until the more funny parts later.
Cera has lead them to a place resembling Hell. She does not notice Spike and Ducky falling behind. Then she does not notice Petrie falling in a tar pit. After crying for help Littlefoot rushes over and saves Ducky and Spike they then try to save Petrie with a dinosaur ladder. They get him out, but Ducky falls in. While trying to save her they all fall in leaving it up to Cera. Except Cera is being chased by the boneheads. Without an introduction they seem to be demons from Hell that torture their victims. They corner Cera quickly until…
Augh! A strange creature scares them away. Cera screams for help until Ducky reveals it is them. Apparently the tar spit them out,,\ like I heard it does in real life (I never tested it). The rest get a huge laugh at Cera, especially as she tries to look brave but keeps tripping. She is too proud to admit her error and leaves. The rest find Sharptooth and decide to finish him off. In the deleted scenes Sharptooth is blocking The Great Valley’s entrance. Here the group just decides to kill him, but he is clearly blocking their path and has been a huge obstacle. Time to eliminate the obstacle. We are told Littlefoot’s plan meaning it will fail. Littlefoot and Spike will push a huge rock on his head and into the deep pond. Petrie gives a signal (as he is light enough presumably). That leaves Ducky as bait, which some viewers have criticized Littlefoot for. I always felt she was the logical choice due to her role involving swimming. Sharptooth sees her coming and gets behind her, but she slips underneath him.
Sharptooth quickly notices them and hits the rocks hard knocking Petrie off, but his breath lets him finally fly (referenced in 12). For some people their iconic moment seeing someone learn to fly is Superman. For others it is Peter Pan. For me it has always been Petrie. Petrie then gets Sharptooth’s attention off Ducky by pecking him, but he again jumps four times his own height by jumping right on the boulder trying to bite Littefoot and Spike.
Petrie stops him by going for his good eye.
This puts Sharptooth on the defense long ugh for Cera to show up and help push the rock with Sharptooth on it into the hole. Some have complained that all reptiles can swim meaning Sharptooth should be fine. My defense for the film is that a huge rock fell and hit him on the head knocking him unconscious. The rock stayed on top of him to drown him. It is also possible that he would have floated back to the top, but he would be unconscious long enough for the gang to get to The Great Valley.
After a fake death with Petrie that still makes me cry Littlefoot is still despairing presumably due to thinking The Great Valley is still far away until he follows a cloud like how the Israelites followed a cloud through the desert that lead to a land flowing with milk and honey. It leads to The Great Valley. After one movie of build up and thirteen of results I am always filled with tears of joy when watching this scene. The gang goes in, as the narrator tells of how wondrous it is. They reunite with their families. Ducky’s family adopts Spike. Cera’s dad is being affectionate. Petrie literally makes enough wind to blow his siblings away and lift his mom. It has earlier been implied that they were near the extinction, but the narrator then squashes the last of the fridge horror by revealing that for many generations their descendants told the story meaning it is nowhere near the extinction. We then get a 40 second clip show that gives just the right closure by reminding of the good moments in this past hour instead of disappointment that it is over. It ends with “If We Hold on Together.” The song is a tear jerker before it even gives a single lyric, and it emphasizes continuing on amidst adversity. I love it.
This is the greatest animated film of all time. Littlefoot is a terrific protagonist. He is a not-so-stoic who leads out of necessity of being the only one determined enough to make it. Cera is an anti-hero I really root for when she does good and root against when she does evil. Petrie has an incredible arc finding his bravery. Spike does not have much hidden intelligence except the part about being of the bottom of the tar monster. Ducky is the most moral character except, she is not good at thinking for herself.
Arguably the speciesism part got dropped in mention, but that is because it shows how it ends, with no one mentioning or thinking about it because they no longer see their differences as bad. Ducks the only one who was not taught it, and she lead actually forming the herd. It is also why they are happy to adopt Spike.
Some have said The Great Valley is Heaven instead of salvation in symbolism. That is false due to a simple detail, Littlefoot’s mom is not there.
After the song some more music is playing that is used in the sequels and the series trailer. We then get to a logo for the man, the myth, the legend.
Don Bluth. Then it is the Amblin logo ending another wonderful film, as it usually does.
The new running time order is 10 (85 minutes), 14 (82 minutes) 12/11 (81 minutes each), 6 (77 minutes) 13 (76 minutes), 9/8/7 (75 minutes each), 5/4/2 (74 minutes each), 3 (71 minutes), and finally 1 (69 minutes).
The new film rankings are 1, 5, 7, 3, 2, 6, 10, 8, 14, 4, 12, 11, 9, 13.
Sometimes it says “The Adventure that Started it all.” Other ones still say “From the Creators of An American Tail.” The box itself shows the dark backgrounds and Sharptooth watching the main characters. It is hard to pinpoint the trailers due to the different rereleases, and my copy is from 1997 instead of 1988. My copy has the series commercial used in 6. It helped make me view this as a very good dark prequel when I was the target audience for the sequels. Now I view it as the greatest animated film of all time, and I need to capture both views.
It has a different Universal Logo, and it seems to be of a galaxy.
Unlike the others where I could barely find any behind the scenes details I could find plenty here. If I do not say where I got something assume it came from http://www.cataroo.com/DBland.html. According to Ani Mat they made the opening while still finishing the story, so they animated a generic opening for a dinosaur film. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIVcL9KPCvQ around the 2:50 mark). He implied it was the part with the narration and the dinosaurs moving, but that has plenty to do with the movie. I suspect it was the underwater scene.
The underwater opening is incredibly beautiful. It even foreshadows four with the sea turtles. It waits a while to show the title, and the bubbles keep revealing the credits. It is directed by Don Bluth himself with Spielberg and George Lucas as producers. James Horner is the composer. The writers of An American Tail are back. I think this opening can be accused of not being useful to the film, but even if it is the 69 minute running time does not need to be shortened. It also shows a little swimming creature in constant danger foreshadowing how dark this film will get, thus it helps the mood.
After the great opening it continues with our narrator, Pat Hingle. He gives us our narration to some more beautiful and ironically dead scenery. The plants are dying off (It is implied to be near the dinosaurs’ extinction, but that is revealed to be false at the end). The dinosaurs appear to rule the Earth, but in truth they are ruled by the leaf. They are following the setting sun (I am in the group that thinks the movie is filled with religious symbolism). I do consider this to be a one true, hard path to life, while a broad road leads to death. The Great Valley does not represent Heaven, but salvation. Even the original does not consider it to be Heaven. As a kid I knew it was made first but I did love that the original was about accomplishing a goal, and the sequels never did anything to reduce the happiness of the ending except make it more happy while still having plenty of plot.
The leaf eaters only stopped to hatch. Ducky I the first one shown being born. I noticed at a young age along with many fans that Cera claimed to be the oldest in 5, but I always assumed they were just guessing their exact ages and Cera would arrogantly claim to be the oldest. Ducky has a birth that highlights her being overly trusting by putting her head in a snapping turtle like thing’s mouth. It highlights her innocence. Cera’s birth (referenced in 12) highlights her recklessness and fear that she seemingly has fear until a thunderbolt horrifies her (referenced in 2). Throughout the series Cera is actually very scared, and it is part of her character as a not so fearless character. As an egg Littlefoot is nearly taken by an egg stealer and he rolls everywhere.
This is such an adorable scene. It also has a few references to Bambi. I do like how it shows Littlefoot being scared of his mother and her looking creepy to capture that babies are born scared and unaware of mother. It then stays such an adorable scene as he falls asleep on his mother. I am crying already.
Time to talk about the deleted scenes. Bluth wanted a darker film, while Spielberg and Lucas wanted it to be lighter. One debated area was keeping his mother’s death and the character in the film. Bluth won this case, which was the most important. He had to use a psychologist and test cases t win it. He also won with the help that it would require too much exposition without her death. I know an early plan was for them to journey to a wise older dinosaur instead of
The Great Valley, so I think that wise older dinosaur would have replaced Littlefoot’s mom. Spielberg did succeed in cutting ten minutes of footage, which helped break up the duo of Don Bluth and Steven Spielberg.
In the next scene Littlefoot is talking. The lack of food is evident especially as Littlefoot tries to eat a stick and the lack of leaves despite the surplus of trees. Littlefoot’s mother teaches him the path to The Great Valley. Littlefoot questions its existence since no one they know has ever been there (a theme brought up in 7 as well). As a seventh grader an above I always loved this symbolism about questioning salvation. As a younger viewer I did not care about the question, but the answer that it is believed in a heart not in a head. Littlefoot decides he will understand later.
She then finds a treestar, and she gives it to Littlefoot. It becomes a symbol of her love at first, but it then changes to a symbol to material possessions and life. Littlefoot then hears a Threehorn playing, and he is excited about having a potential playmate. He sees Cera nearly eat an insect (if Hungary enough a Triceratops would eat meat). She gets sprayed by something and Littlefoot laughs. This draws Cera in who playfully wants to charge him, and Littlefoot seems to love the idea too. This is mostly comedic and some children having fun until Mr. Threehorn jumps between and demands Littlefoot leaves. He then tells is daughter “Come Cera. Threehorns never play with Longnecks.” Cera then repeats him. We already had a man vs. nature plot and now a man vs. society plot, racism/ speciesism. Cera has been taught it by her dad, and she copies him. Littlefoot’s mom explains it and she obviously accepts it as life. Littlefoot for a brief time does show some specieism (It does a wonderful job standing in for racisim in my opinion) later, by mixing a quote form his mom and Mr. Threehorn, but it is very brief and only shown once compared to the rest of the movie. Some say Littlefoot’s mother taught it to him, but she merely explained it, and I think it going wrong helps make her seem like a real parent.
Contrary to what the above picture says this is not Disney. Littlefoot follows a frog, and he runs into Cera. They play a bit until…
Sharptooth shows up. The original plan was for a more dramatic entrance that would be slower, while hear he only has a little build up. I actually really like that. I cannot compare it to the original plan, but instead of building him up like usual, he gets to be shown as menacing out of nowhere like real predators. He chases Littlefoot and Cera through a briar patch.
Littlefoot tells Cera to go one way, but she goes a different way, and Littlefoot goes after her trying to get her to go his way. Cera’s way is big enough for Sharptooth to follow. Littlefoot accidently gets a thorn stuck in his eye, and I can hear Sharptooth’s pain. He is now motivated by revenge. This foreshadows some of Littlefoot and Cera’s future problems. Sharptooth gets in front of them, but mother comes to face him.
Unlike most of the sequels’ fights this is very fast paced. Off note include Sharptooth getting warmed up by destroying a large rock nearly his size, and Littlefoot’s mother using her head as bait to hit him with her tail like Grandpa Longneck often did. I guess he taught her that.
He then jumps four times his height to get on her back and rip off flesh. I am already getting really sad, while really enjoying the action. She successfully knocks him away.
You can see the bloodless carnage that he presumably drank out of her. It looks good then until a huge earthquake comes and Sharptooth gets Littlefoot and Cera on his foot, and they all start falling into a huge cliff. Littlefoot’s mother saves them, while Sharptooth presumably falls to his death. It then shows many dinosaurs and herds perishing in the earthquake. Cera and Littlefoot are separated form their healthy parents and grandparents.
This next scene is sad no matter how many times I watch it. With the exception of Splinter’s death in the episode “Same as it Never was” I am never sad at off screen deaths, and to my tears’ misery she dies on screen. We do not even know she is dead until she is no longer talking. James Horner has done it. His soundtrack is the greatest ever. It can be so happy, so sad, and so exciting. She dies trying to keep her son alive by reminding him about how to find The Great Valley. I do hold on to the belief that this is Christian symbolism. I will not call it an allegory since I do not think the minor characters have important symbolic roles, but mother is Jesus. She is the sacrifice to keep everyone else alive when they wondered off the path.
Littlefoot is then shown going through grief, denial, anger, sadness, and acceptance. I do not know about bargaining so presumably off screen. He runs into our narrator, Rooter. I neglected this in my review of 10, but a fan theory is Rooter told Bron about his wife’s death. Littlefoot is doing a common Bluth trope, falling to symbolize a loss of sanity. He is blaming himself for wandering too far from home, Sharptooth for killing her, and his mother for not taking care of herself better. In a scene referenced in 2 and 4 Rooter explains the circle of life. Everyone eventually dies, but it does not actually end. As long as someone remembers what they taught and supported. It takes a few scenes, but it does start to sink in with Littlefoot. We then get very much needed very cute comic relief with some pterodactyls. It also shows that life goes on amidst tragedy. In another part he starts to hear his mother’s voice through the tree star. Littlefoot certainly considers it to represent his mother.
I consider the following shadow sequence to be the movie’s saddest part. He thinks he saw his shadow as mother. It is so obviously not, and I am crying just thinking about it. Not even Babe or Gettysburg has a scene like that. After Littlefoot finally accepts that his mother is dead, and he has to live by finding The Great Valley so she will not be completely gone. This is still how I cope with loss.
Littlefoot is someone who stays devoted to Christianity in the bad times. Some have called Cera temptation, but I consider her to be a person who makes problems, but needs to be saved. She is not an obstacle by design but due to her flaws she must overcome. Instead of joining Littlefoot she remembers he dad’s words about being speciesist and tries to get over the great chasm. Littlefoot then is obviously hurt, and he does not want to join a swimmer, until her innocent happiness wins him over. Ducky is the overly innocent member trying to find out if Littlefoot or Cera knows the right way. They then meet Petrie (he was most likely left behind due to not knowing how to fly). Petrie’s actor, Will Ryan, is the only main actor to be an adult. If the other actors could not pull it off, then his role would have been greatly increased, but Judith Barsi exceeded expectations and got many of his lines. Petrie is a coward, but right away his sense of bravery is shown by him volunteering to be a guard and that he successfully climbed a tree, thus he at least is not consumed by fear.
Cera accidently wakes up Sharptooth and flees in huge fear into the others. She makes up a story about fighting him off, which Cera an Petrie believe. My one problem with this movie is Littlefoot clearly believes Sharptooth is the only one even though the narrator earlier used the plural term. In the meantime Ducky finds Spike, a big eater who is too young to think much.
In a deleted scene Cera wants them to leave Spike for slowing them down, but Ducky uses berries to keep him going. Unlike the herds in the opening they have multiple species. The next scene has simple parts like Littlefoot using water to find food, and Ducky and Petrie becoming friends. Confusingly Cera claims finding the food. Littlefoot is mad, and then some longnecks come in and eat it all. I eventually realized that Cera’s bragging got the attention of them, and they rushed in to eat everything. I am pretty sure that it was before the deleted scene with other herds. In another part of the deleted scene they met two types of dinosaurs. One had water, and one had food. They refused to share due to their differences, and it is presumed they will both die. Back in the trees the group minus Cera make a dinosaur ladder, and they get Petrie high enough to get a lo of food down and fall with style down. He hoped he flew down, but no one can honestly say yes. Cera refuses to join until Littlefoot tricks her into thinking she got some down herself, but it mostly increases her ego (brag bone).
Cera and Littlefoot sleep in different areas, and the others pick who o join. Eventually even Cera goes to Littlefoot.
The first sequel. It only has one preview of “The Adventures of Timmy the tooth.” It includes the villains capturing the sun with a rope. I think that sounds fun The Universal logo starts the film. It does not begin with a description of long ago. It shows meteorites in space (foreshadowing 3), and The Great Valley with music from the original playing. The narrator talks about “The Dreaded Sharpteeth” and shows Chomper’s dad. At the times he is ambiguously the sharptooth from the original and Frank Welker’s roar is very frightening. In the meantime the prequels have their first song. This is not confirmed, but I noticed all three songs are in the first half. It makes me think executive meddling forced this to be a musical and Smith wanted the songs done rather quickly.
I think that is the same ledge they were on at the end of 5. It is a good song if you remember that they just got to the Great Valley after the first film, and it does a good job showing their parents being watchful, which foreshadows a key part of the film. Having survived the journey there the children view themselves as more impendent, but the adults still see them as children for a good reason. It also uses words like “sun” and “clouds” instead of bright circle and sky puffies. I really love how they o not use proper scientific terms by simplifying them to a basic English understanding.
The next few parts is a natural extension of the theme that Littlefoot feels too small (like in 11 but done better by making him less whiny). It also shows The Great Valley is full of dangers further proving it is not Heaven. It has volcanoes, dangerous Geyser things, and hostile egg stealers ( presumably the one in the original that tried to get Littlefoot or the one sneaking in during the credits). With Jeff Bennet and Rob Paulsen voicing Spike and Petrie they are also several minor characters like Ozzy and Strut). They are after eggs.
Like the ending to the original Cera calls Littelfoot to play, but they are bored, as they unknowingly stop Ozzy and strut from taking an egg. They eventually decide to play past the sinking sand. Thanks to Cera’s less than stellar jumping abilities they get stuck and are only saved by Grandpa. With this going on all of their parents are mad at them and not as trusting as earlier. Cera gets them to all leave at night.
In the meantime Ozzy is starting to be present as drug addicted killer, while Stut is more level headed, but he hesitantly goes along. Ozzy’s love for eggs when they can just eat plants is like a drug addiction. I do not think too many fans consider his song “Eggs” good, but I think it is the best in the film. I like the puns and seeing him get so angry at is brother, and I always laugh at some point. Ozzy becomes the only dinosaur in the series to say his species name.
The main characters besides Littlefoot decide they do not need parents (I am pretty sure this film was a major part of me deciding the reverse). Littlefoot does not like their idea of running away to prove it. They eventually notice Ozzy and Strut taking an egg from Ducky’s family. Littlefoot wants to tell the grownups. Lead by Cera the others want to catch them to prove they are not hatchlings. Some fans are annoyed Cera is so much nicer ignoring she got nicer at the end of 1, and events change people. I really loved it how they resected us enough to keep character development. Cera reasons they have a 5-2 advantage (size wise I think they are outnumbered). They give chase and foreshadowing Chomper’s shadow Ozzy and strut only see the shadow and think they are huge. Eventually they hide in a cave. Now Cera is scared saying they should get help. Littlefoot has also switched saying doing that would this late would let them get away. Ducky and Spike are with him and Petrie tags along. Also like in the original Cera is scared of Thunder.
In ensuing chaos They smash into a rock formation making a huge hole in The Great Wall separating The Great Valley from The Mysterious Beyond.” The egg never actually hits the rocks thanks to the egg stealers trying to safe it, and it rolls back to its nest. The main characters fall to a swamp filled with sharpteeth skeletons (like what the bullies walked through in 3). They find an egg that they assume is a grown up egg from earlier. They make a carrying nest to get it back, but find that the egg is already back. Littlefoot wants to tell the grown-ups, but Cera by threat o violence makes him not under the assumption they will be punished for leaving. I think she actually is mad at her daddy and wants to keep a secret from him. The egg stealers prepare to take it back until it hatches, and it is a sharptooth. The rest flee and run over the egg stealers knocking them unconscious. Littlefoot stays to raise it. He tries to teach him to walk, names him Chomper. He then realizes the food source is a problem. He refuses to eat plants. Some critics said the message about acceptance is broken due to the food issue. They are mistaking 2 with 5. The food part is never hidden at all, and that is why Littlefoot and Chomper cannot stay together. The message is really that parents know best and like his parents Littlefoot has to accept that he cannot take care of Chomper due to not being able to feed him like his real parents can.
In a cute scene he asks his parents for information under the lie that he is just curious. They think it is just their grandson dreaming about being older, and play along. In the meantime Ducky, Spike, Petrie, and Cera think sharptooth ate Littlefoot and the egg stealers attack them. Littlefoot just realized Chomper did not obey him about staying in one place. He finds him, but then notices the egg stealers are about to throw the others off a cliff. He fails to save them, but Chomper’s shadow scares them into leaping to safety and great pain. Unlike the yellow bellies the animators did a great job at making these guys look fit.
If this did not come out the same year as The Lion King I would think one of them was inspired by the other, as they both involve herbivores trying to raise a carnivore who eats bugs. Of course here it is used for drama, while in The Lion King it was used for comic relief. They sing the final song already “Family and One of us Now.” I never notably liked it, but it is perfectly fine. Chomper ends it with biting Cera on the tail turning all but Littlefoot against him. Ducky and Spike also turn against themselves realizing theyare acting like their parents to Chomper. Chomper runs off.
For the first time until nine films later two sharpteeth enter The Great Valley. Ozzy and Strut climb their way back up (arm day today and leg day was yesterday I guess) they go for another nest, but the children’s screaming alerts mommy to save them. Ozzy is clearly mad while strut is slightly funny scared at the same time. Ozzy vows to kill them in retaliation. The gang saw Chomper at an active volcano. Time to completely ignore the poisonous gases. I am really wondering how the volcano did not affect the valley more than the drought next film. The egg stealers find the main characters and threaten to throw them I some boiling water. Strut laughs happily. I have mostly left out that Strut is slowly becoming more murderous like Ozzy. It is not really important to the main plot, but it does help keep the character interesting and show the audience what bad company gives. It started when he was mad the children took their egg. Cera claims they are friends with a huge sharptooth, but she slips and mocks them for being scared by a baby sharptooth.
Chomper distracts them by biting Strut, but it is the volcano’s lava bombs that scare them away actually saving them. The lava is no where near as threatening as the fire and pales in comparison. Eventually there is a huge drop off on one side, a cliff on the other, egg stealers trying to kill them on another, and lava the way they came. Due to his growing protective instincts as he wants to protect someone he considers to be like a son, Chomper, he can now knock down a tree to make an escape path. Ozzy and Strut fall down and everything now looks good until the sharpteeth came. In a major way Ozzy and Strut are like Sue from 10. They could have been written out (harder for them than Sue), but they serve as red herrings making the actual big moment seem bigger. These sharptooth move faster and more normally than the one in the original and more like a cross between him and the Jurassic Park T-Rex. They also make a show of stomping on every tree they see. In a good move after one instead of finding The Great Valley it is now heavily threatened. After hiding Littlefoot reminds them and the audience that they caused it, and he wants to take responsibility by fixing it. Mama Sharptooth then successfully beats Grandpa in a fight but Petrie… Petrie’s mom colored wrong and then right distracts her long enough for Grandpa Longneck to get up and just leave. I guess he was telling the others where they were.
This next climatic fight is not as polished as later ones but it has many good parts. The gang fights them with tripping them with vines (Littlefoot and Chomper). Cera rams one, but unlike in 10 sharptooth is moderately annoyed and Cera is on the ground. She is saved by Spike dropping a huge rock. It is then Papa sharptooth who makes problems by nearly killing Spike. Ducky jumps on his nose. Mama sharptooth tries to eat her, but Petrie moves her. Mama bites Papa on the head
They nearly fight but go back to get Petrie and Ducky until their parent arrive. I guess the stegosaurus and Ducky’s mom stays in the rear, as Grandpa and Grandma take out Mama Sharptooth and Mr. Threehorn beats Papa Sharptooth. They then flee, the children come out of hiding, and “If We Hold on Together” plays making it better by default. Chomper quickly follows the other sharpteeth. Cera spills the beans about the hole and the grown-ups go to close it. Littlefoot chases after Chomper and finds him, but so do the sharpteeth. Littlefoot gets stuck and thinks he and Chomper are done for until the sharpteeth kindly lick him and put them on their head. Littlefoot lets them leave until he is captured by the egg stealers, and it is Strut who suggests throwing him off the Great Wall (this is the only film to use those three words). Making Strut get more villainous kept these two surprising, threatening, and interesting. Chomper hears and leads his parents back to the egg stealers, and they save the day.
Technically the chase last until 4. In a rather emotional moment Chomper is torn about who to stay with, but Littlefoot insists he go with his real parents who can take care of him. He leaves and the others arrive in time to tell him goodbye, which is important for Chomper’s ending if he did not show up again. This is bittersweet enough to leave a sequel, which could even surpass it.
In the closing actions it is confirmed that the main characters are on good terms with their parents again due to accepting their dependence on them, and a reprise of “Peaceful Valley” is played, and it is actually better than the full version.
The villains are very good. The moral is very good. The action is fine, but the beginning and not so amazing songs hold it back from the best sequels. Then in the credits one key animator is named “Thomas Decker” giving him a very similar name to an actor later in the franchise.
The new climax ranking is 3, 5, 6, 10, 7, 2, 14, 4, 11, 12, 8, 9, 13
For the first time the new film has no songs to be added to the top 15 song list. “Eggs” is the best, but it is not as good as “who Needs you.” Of course this list was put together rather hastily, and most years it would be different especially after the first 4.
The new running time order is 10 (85 minutes), 14 (82 minutes) 12/11 (81 minutes each), 6 (77 minutes) 13 (76 minutes), 9/8/7 (75 minutes each), 5/4/2 (74 minutes each), 3 (71 minutes)
The new film rankings are 5, 7, 3, 2, 6, 10, 8, 14, 4, 12, 11, 9, 13. It depends on the year about whether 3, 5, and 7 are ordered, but they are the top 3 sequels. The odd numbered films in the second half are notably the worst of the series. It depends on the year about how I rank the even numbered films, but 6 and 4 heavily change each time. I decided two is the best of them due to being a major part of the series and direct-to-video. It is nowhere near as good as 3, but it is very enjoyable.
My favorite eras in order are theme (5-7), Roy Allen Smith (2-4), Full CG (8-10), and Later (11-13).
Many older fans do call this the best of the sequels, as it has very scary moments, intensity, high stakes, and a surprisingly complex theme for the title. The theme is that anger leads to more anger from others, and that stops teamwork from being effective.
The Previews here are very good. I like the commercial to the second film, and it does make me want to watch it again. Then it gives a commercial where they sing “All Sorts” from 4, with clips from the film instead of most the song clips, and I like that better than the actual song clips. I remember saying Babe has a commercial for this film. well it has a commercial for Babe too. It is very good and fast paced. The “Timmy the Tooth” commercials are better in 2.
Of all the sequels this has the best opening. It uses the same music from the original film. It talks a lot about evolution and how single celled organism became land dwellers, yet I it is actually because of these openings I became a Young Earth creationist. I got exposed to so much evolution I turned against it. I still like seeing the animations of it. They even got the narrator to say “dinosaurs.” I also like how it briefly shows feathered raptors and then they take out a three horned like dinosaur. Like 2 it role calls the entire group. Littlefoot the longneck.
Cera the Threehorn (who has one horn for now). Ducky the swimmer (who is hardly ever shown swimming), Petrie the Flyer (Still love him), and Spike the Spiketail (a little redundant). They are using a huge rock as a ball until Hyp and… Nod and Mutt. Unlike Rinkus and Sierra they blend together. I know the bullies are often hated by older viewers, but these three are great, as they actually come off as murderous. Just considering how soon this is from the original it makes sense. The group is yet to save anyone living in the Valley so no one owes them anything. The bullies are teenagers who probably dislike that some children have had a far more adventurous life than them. In their opening talk Littlefoot views them as potential playmates. Petrie views them as bullies and dislikes them. Ducky and Spike agree with Littlefoot Cera not only agrees with Petrie but tries to fight them, which makes Hyp excited until a meteor shower comes including a big one into The Mysterious Beyond.
Seemingly no one is dead. Littlefoot and Grandpa point out that now the danger is over it is a pretty sight from the “flying rocks.”
Then the water source stops flowing. I mentioned in my review of 6 that there are other water sources. Since they have not been in The Great Valley for long I guess they have not found them yet. Grandma and Grandpa do not want Littlefoot to hear the others fight and ask him to go play somewhere else. He does that as we can hear the grown-ups fighting. Littlefoot meets with the other children where to further Show spike’s hidden intelligence he hides before the bullies show up. The song are again written by Michele Brourman and Amanda McBroom, as the first one “When You’re Big” is sung. Unlike Charles Grosvenor who used one film with sentient villains in eight films Roy Allen smith used three in thee films, and they all have villain songs. I know this sounds like the song I usually hate being a villain song and just talk about being evil, but I love it. It captures the destructive energy teenagers and their pure threat level. It is also so catchy. I have seen some good fan videos of it with Jurassic Park dinosaurs. After the song Hyp tells Nod and Mutt how they will presumably kill the group for fun, as they sneak out. They miss Spike who just hid.
After that Grandpa’s water conservation plan is basically to trust everyone to do their part. Being the small government supporter I am I am okay with the idea, but it needs work. I presume everyone else just interrupted him before he could finish. Mr. Threehorn suggests firm action against wasting, and he unintendedly starts many others going on a crusade on who has previously wasted the least water. Another lesson in the film is cooperation is needed to survive the hard times, and the grown-ups do not have it, and the immediate negative effects of the film start. At the same time the bullies splash some water and Mr. Threehorn accuses Littlefoot (presumably thirst and hunger is making him less sane). He deems Littlefoot a bad influence, which makes Ducky wonder what influence is, which is surprisingly funny. He also demands that Cera stay away from Littlefoot and she angrily goes with him until night when she runs off. It is then shown that Mr. Threehorn is overly worried about his daughter, which makes him angrier than usual, which Cera can tell.
In a key moment showing that Grandpa does know best they educate Littlefoot and most the audience on morning dew. They get an okay meal, but the food is dying out fast, as the valley dries up. It is also revealed that off screen they made a time schedule for each herd, but Grandpa says it does not affect the Children, and Mr. Threehorn disagrees. It is surprisingly hard to follow the logic that Mr. Threehorn’s problem is he refuses to compromise, but he gets a song. “Standing Tough” is surprisingly enjoyable. It furthers his motivations that they will die without him doing it and any compromise is weakness. They are too busy fighting to notice Littlefoot leave with Cera.
To further the depression of losing water there a few quick silent scenes showing how the water level is clearly way lower, the fish are struggling, and there is far more dust than usual. The group finds water (I like to think it is the same pond that dried up in 6), but the bullies show up. In a move that really sets them apart instead of trying to take credit for finding water they give the gang a decision, never tell anyone about it and let the bullies only use it or die. In short their plan is to have water and let everyone else likely die. Instead of lying that they will not tell and then tell (no one would fault you) they say they will not and flee. They are saved by a wasp chasing away the bullies. I really like that. The group goes a strange route reasoning their larger pursuers could not cross where they see the desert part of The Mysterious Beyond, but it is covered in the water that would go to The Great Valley, as flying rocks dammed it up.
They go to tell the grown-ups sure they will know what to do, but as Grandma warned earlier a fire starts. Unlike the fire in Bambi that uses an orange fire that engulfs the forest, this fire is mostly smoke blotting out the vision except for a very red fire burning every tree and piece of vegetation near it.
This fire is quite scary. Michael Tavera is alternating music from 2, and it is actually working better here than in its original use. Presumably due to their bickering the grown-ups missed the smoke. It also would have obviously been seen by The Great Valley residents not near the water. Mr. Threehorn takes command and gives an escape route, but Grandpa points out it is heading downwind where the fire will spread and he gives an alternate route. Instead of listening to superior advice and noticing he is wrong (When you should devote to the one group ironically) he is fine with them going another way, but he orders Cera to go with him. Grandpa goes to stop them, while Grandma leads the others to safety. The smoke gets to thick so Littlefoot (closer to the ground) has to take charge and tells everyone to use their voice instead of ears. It is the first time he saved the valley instead of just an individual or his friends. The music then gets even more scary, as it shows Mr. Threehorn and Cera running. It is slow and constantly makes it clear how much of the valley the fire is destroying. It is also clear that Mr. Threehorn is watching for Cera more than himself, but they eventually get trapped. Grandpa saves them by knocking a tree on the fire, and they run out before it is engulfed in flames.
They arrive as “If We Hold on Together” plays. Everyone but Mr. Threehorn is at first optimistic, but his pessimism runs into everyone. Grandma gets Mr. Threehorn happy by mentioning his daughter being safe, but most others are convinced they are doomed ( a good trailer shot). They know the water would have to be covered in sharpteeth. Mr. Threehorn says no place is safe unless they free it. Mr. Clubtail (voiced by Rob Paulsen again) points out his plans could not be worse than his fire escape plan resulting in them roaring at each other.
Grandma says they are acting like children and finally a movie has a kid defend themselves when that happens. Thank you Petrie. We can hear the adults fighting as Mr. Threehorn wants a quick plan and Grandpa wants a well thought out plan. The bullies decide to get it themselves. The main group notices and besides Littlefoot they are rooting for the sharpteeth. One reason I love “When You’re Big” is because it is deconstructed in another song, “Kids Like Us.” I should point out at some point. Thomas Decker voiced Littlefoot for 13 songs, while other Littlefoot voice actors voiced him for only 15 songs over nine films, and this is the only time Littlefoot sings in this film. It perfectly contradicts every point made in Hyp’s song. I love it. After that they go to help Littlefoot with the last one being “a scaredy egg.” My brother and I used that insult so many times.
Hyp gets stuck in a tar pit (the toxic tar is at the bottom, so he did no drink toxins). Littlefoot hears, and from the first film they know how Tar works. They make a dinosaur ladder to pull him out. Humorously and important for Hyp a buzzing stinger (he is scared of them) lands on his nose. He must overcome his fear and stay still in a funny pose. He eventually falls in, but Petrie pulls him back up where he is pulled out. Petrie is so amazing. Hyp denies he needs help until he sees his dad coming and cowers behin the main group. It consists of Nod’s father (prumably), Hyp’s father, Mr. Threehorn, Grandpa, and Mr. Clubtail (I presume he is Mutt’s father but Wikipedia disagrees with me. Maybe he is friends of his family or just brave). We have the dull reveal the bully has a rough father and Mr. Threehorn reveals the error of his way until Mr. Threehorn of all dinosaurs gets very preachy, which is a good touch. Nod is crying about being in trouble and “THAT!”
This is the first time I ever saw velociraptors, and four of them show up. I love the shot where one’s foot goes down, and his claw comes up.
There are four of them. One lunges at Grandpa, but he uses his tail instead of his head (like in 10) as bait. He then hits him to Mr. Threehorn. A rock falls on his head, and we never see him again. Based on what his friends do I presume he was the weak scout they sent in. Hyp’s dad takes the children to safety, and the rest face the others 4-3. Well Littlefoot looks back and sees Grandpa is double teamed, and almost stops to help. It does contrast form earlier how nicely Hyp’s dad tells him not to look back. Despite most likely triple teaming the other one they cannot beat it I presume because they must have put Nod’s dad on him. The grown-ups make the wall defense, which is horrible in real life because they attack the weakest link, but in movies it often works, but not here, as they just run around or even over Nod’s dad. He should have stayed home today.
The children and Hyp’s dad see them from the high ground in front, but the grown-ups have a growl off with them, and we hear shaking as if there battle is making an earth quake. Then all seven of them fall. The grown-ups are out, but somehow all three sharpteeth shake it off. What steroids are they taking? Hyp’s dad runs off to the rescue in a scene that would be horrible if the pacing was not so good making it awesome. It goes from slow paced to so fast. I presume the sharpteeth are still shaken up from the fall and too bruised to move fast, and their steroids affect their brains. Nod and Mutt mock him, but Hyp goes down to distract them, but all three go after him. The sharpteeth chase Hyp, but Grandpa takes them all out in one hit (I am pretty sure that should kill them all). The sharpteeth flee to the rocks to get the children, but Mr. Threehorn takes out another one who gets buried in rocks. I know I often criticize the show for throwing rocks at them too much… Actually I only did that in 13 and 10. Well it really starts right now, but the music and theme coming together about working together, and Hyp’s humor make this rock throwing work so well. Unfortunately all three sharpteeth catch second wind again (I also have to question why Grandpa used his head as bait with no counter attack as usual). It then turns out all the rocks they knocked around has freed the water. The grown-ups flee to the high ground, while the velociraptors are swept away. A later scene shows all three on shore seemingly kissing it. That was awesome.
Surprisingly the falling action is very long, and kind of boring, an it includes a title drop. Only 3, 7, and 12 have title drops and this was the only one that was forced.
Overall this has a great use of silence and pacing. The songs go together so well. The theme is remarkably adult and child centered. The climax is amazing. It took clichés that children were not yet well aware of, and it did great with them. As the target audience this was my second favorite of the series after only 5.
The new climax ranking is 3, 5, 6, 10, 7, 14, 4, 11, 12, 8, 9, 13
The best songs are now 1. Very Important Creature (7) 2. Beyond the Mysterious Beyond (7) 3. Kids Like us (3) 4. Bestest friends (10) 5. Always There (5) 6. Grandma’s Lullaby (4) 7. Big Water (5) 8. When Your’re Big (3) 9. “The Lesson (8) 10. “Family (8) 11. Adventuring (10). 12. flip, Flap, Fly (12). 13. How do You Know (13). 14. “On You’re Own” (6) 15. Who Needs you (4)
The new running time order is 10 (85 minutes), 14 (82 minutes) 12/11 (81 minutes each), 6 (77 minutes) 13 (76 minutes), 9/8/7 (75 minutes each), 5/4 (74 minutes each), 3 (71 minutes)
The new film rankings are 5, 7, 3, 6, 10, 8, 14, 4, 12, 11, 9, 13. 3 was a heavy contender for the title of top film, but I enjoy 5 too much as a kid and 7 too much as an older viewer. It 3, 5, and 7 are the top 3 and very close, and they are the notable big three.
The last film of The Roy Allen Smith Era, and the last one to be directed by him. It is written by Dev Ross. Besides The Wisdom of Friends (13) it is the only one without Littlefoot on the mid cover, which has Cera’s tail. That was always odd to see. Also Warren Taylor instead of Jay Bixsen is the editor. Icky has a pair of binoculars on the front cover above, which foreshadows his song. Most critics hated this, but the target audience loved it.
The commercial to Flipper brings back memories, as my sister loved it, but it feels nothing like the film. I cannot say the commercial to this film, which is next, is good. The “We Sing Dom” commercial is also poor. The most interesting part of the trailer is they put the Universal Cartoon Studios logo before instead of after the film.
Unlike the others it right away reveals the title. Based off this and the poor animation I think it was made really quickly. The opening does have some good foreshadowing when a whale opens his mouth to resemble a crocodile.
It is also impressive when he jumps out of the water. We also get to see some egg stealers (presumably Ozzy and Strut) included) running from a sharptooth resembling Chomper’s dad (a popular misconception is there is no land sharptooth this film. Only 9 as that distinction). I guess they ran back to the herd, so they would only have to outrun their slowest herd mate. Back in The Great Valley Cera knocks food off a tree and laughs by saying “Hee.” I know that with Candace Hutson as her actress she did that a few times, but she does it five times in this film. I surprisingly found it to be a cute laugh that sounded like it came from a kid. Littlefoot chases a Drangonfly and sees a herd of Longnecks coming in. He and his grandparents go to greet them, but Grandpa has trouble getting there.
The grown-ups meet the herd. Mr. Threhorn is really quiet after getting nearly the entire valley killed last movie. Besides 13 this is the only one where he never talks. The longnecks are lead by “Old One.” She is called wise, which Littlefoot doubts. She uses fear tactics to get others to join her migratory herd. When she asks about The Great Valley they say it is the same as usual. I guess a fire, drought, and famine in the last movie is normal. Further proof this is not Heaven. She then starts with the fear tactics by going on about how everywhere is changing for the worst and only Longneck safety in numbers can survive. I would consider safety to be who can eat all the food before anyone else and ignore them, but it is convincing Grandma and Grandpa. I do like how a few longnecks next film look like her herd implying a few got smart and stayed in The Great Valley.
Littlefoot and his friends play catch Cera where he meets Allie (no romantic interest, but it makes me wonder if the producers actually shipped Littlefoot and Cera like a few fans do). Allie likes Littlefoot and is scared of the others due to them being different. It is a good call back to the first one, and it fits the moral that all types of people are needed. Littlefoot decides to play with Allie instead of his older friends due to her funny faces. None are actually funny, so I presume he really just wants to make The Valley’s guests happy. Seeing that makes Cera declare Littlefoot to no longer be there friend. In a good move the others vocally disagree, and it is obvious Cera does not mean it.
Grandpa gets deathly sick. The only way to potentially save him is to for him to eat the nightflowers, which are where the migrators (not called “far-walkers” or “wanderers”for some reason) are from. Grandma gasps for the second time this film, and is discouraged when no one will help her get it. Littlefoot is determined to get it. Grandpa makes him promise to leave with the migrators with Grandma if he dies, which I find to be faulty logic, but The Old One really got into his head with her fear tactics. I am really glad she has a small role.
Grandma sing the first song of the film and her only singing role in the franchise, “Grandma’s Lullaby. Leslie Bricusse wrote the songs instead of Amanda McBroom and Michele Brourman like all the others so far , and she did very well. The song says the words “circle of Life” which got one of the worst internet fandoms angry, The Lion King internet fans. They are overly paranoid everything is ripping them off. Here is why it is not a rip-off that anyone should be able to see right away. The Circle of Life was also mentioned in the first film, which came out six years before The Lion King, which turns the argument around using their overly simple logic. Now it means The Lion King ripped off The Land Before Time, and there are plenty of other similarities before them. This film is doing what sequels are supposed to do and remind the viewers of the original. Some further proof the are not hoping to simply cash in on its success is the second film came out the same year as The Lion King. It also mentioned the circle of life. Both arguments still fall apart due to a major detail, both have entirely different definitions. The Lion King uses a definition that connects all life to a food chain. The Land Before Time and its sequels have a different definition. It uses a circle to connect all parts of life and we all have to die at one point. The final point is that “The Circle of Life” is not original to either film by a longshot.
The song itself has some very nice visuals, and it does not shy away from the darkness it implies. I really like it.
Littlefoot sneaks off to find the night flower. He first enlists Allie since she knows the way, but she convinces him it will be faster to bring no one else. I am starting to think Cera has a point. Grandma is not happy. Ducky volunteers to go get Littlefoot, but Grandma makes them promise not to presumably knowing it is all she can do to keep them in the valley. There is actually an important landmark coming up when they leave. This is the first time since the original a majority of the film takes place in The Mysterious Beyond. Allie and Littlefoot arrive at he best part of the film, the cave.
An earthquake (another callback) sepearates them. Allie leaves to get help being on the right side for that. Littlfoot meats a turtle who looks very similar to the ones he saw in 9 and in the opening to the original. I love that part. The turtle is named Archie, and he helps Littlefoot despite pulling a muscle. Allie gets the others, as they agree after Spike decides to help her (good job Spike), but Cera stays back not trusting Allie. It is obvious she will come later.
We are then introduced to the villains, who had a few quick glimpses earlier. A crocodile named Dill and a sharp Beak named Icky. I expected to heavily criticize them, but in the cave Icky is plenty intimidating and they are actually really funny. They even argue like an old married couple wile singing “Who Needs you.” As a 13 year old I thought this song was hilarious. My sisters still love it. I still like it. One real problem though is a giant prehistoric crocodile is not as cool as a theropod. They eventually find Littlefoot and Archie and chase them down. With the rest only Spike is getting any rocks moved until Cera shows up and literally destroys rocks and one falls on Dill’s head knocking him out and taking out Icky too. Allie is the least useful. The rock scene in 3 is really paying off.
Archie knows the way out and shows it as “If We Hold on Together” Plays. It is very fitting for Archie’s speech about staying together. I know I glanced over the cave scene rather quickly to save time, but it is a very good highlight, and I love it.
We are introduced to The Land Of Mists in a very similar way to The Great Valley, but it is much darker like it is evil. They go to look for the nightflower. Cera gets really scared (she has a lot of cowardice in her) by a serpent. She should have done what Spike did, put Littlefoot’s tail in his mouth to not get lost. Some boneheads start slamming into each other. The egg stealers from earlier all run into the river and are presumably eaten. Surprisingly they forget about Cera to find…
It is a fine scene except forgetting about Cera. They then find Cera making everything look good again. She gives another “Hee,” but she falls into the river due to the rocks falling. Ducky throws her a vine. Oddly Cera sees Dill and Icky coming to get her and does not swim to the rocks to climb up. Icky instead of feasting on egg stealers cuts the vine. They go to eat Cera instead of the horde of egg stealers due to their bad breath I guess. Here is when Dill’s lack of threat hurts the film. Dill gets stuck in a tree leaving the less threatening villain around. Allie goes down to save Cera, which works and they finally like each other as “If We Hold on Together” plays. It also contrasts the villains arguing. Our final song “All Sorts” is the basic moral, and not much else. It does give the villains another purpose, as they are too busy fighting over each others’ strengths and weaknesses instead of using them to help. It does have a nice touch when Cera sings with Allie and Littlefoot even though Candace Hutson’s singing voice is not as good as Andi McCaffee’ singing voice.
Look to the left side of the picture and similar to Icky’s binoculars there is a microphone on a pole near them.
I think I know why I like Dill and Icky. I am so used to them being portrayed as terrifying villains it is nice to see them being the main source of comedy. The rest of the group finds the nightflower, but Dill and Icky literally just bump into them. Icky captures Petrie, but Tickles gets him to bite Dill’s tail instead. This turns Dill on Icky until they hear Cera say “Hee.” Realizing where they are they follow them over a bridge where Ducky goes to retrieve a flower by half grabbing, pulling back, and then fully grabbing. Icky captures Ducky. Petrie finally makes himself useful by trying to safe her and nearly choking her. Ducky falls unconscious, and she is about to be eaten by Dill (how did she get down there and why not get the others). She is woken up by Spike talking. I actually remember the first time hearing this despite the film coming out the year I was born. I always thought it was a logical progression that he would talk eventually, and that is a very memorable part. It wakes Ducky up and with Petrie and Spike’s help Dill instead grabs Icky with her mouth. When she lets Icky out they finally leave. They say goodbye to Tickles. They wonder if they will all meet again someday. Based on what the Evolutionist narrator says Tickles descendants will kill yours so no.
The rest get back and save Grandpa. He is good, Cera gives one final “Hee.” Five total this film. The narrator says Allie will return not mentioning it is for a sucky episode of the TV Series.
When I was the target audience I never really cared about this one. As an adult it depends on the year, but I always love Archie. It has good foreshadowing songs, and humor, but it struggles in animation and mood. Like 6 it depends on the year how much I enjoy it.
The new climax ranking is 5, 6,10, 7, 14, 4, 11,12, 8, 9, 13
The best songs are now 1. Very Important Creature (7) 2. Beyond the Mysterious Beyond (7) 3. Bestest friends (10) 4. Always There (5) 5. Grandma’s Lullaby (4) 6. Big Water (5) 7. “The Lesson (8) 8. “Family (8) 9. Adventuring (10). 10. flip, Flap, Fly (12). 11. How do You Know (13). 12. “On You’re Own” (6) 13. Who Needs you (4) 14. Chanson D’ Ennui (9).
The new running time order is 10 (85 minutes), 14 (82 minutes) 12/11 (81 minutes each), 6 (77 minutes) 13 (76 minutes), 9/8/7 (75 minutes each), 5/4 (74 minutes each)
The new film rankings are 5, 7, 6, 10, 8, 14, 4, 12, 11, 9, 13.
Many people wonder how this series had so many fans. The answer besides it being good is it was an alternative to Disney. For those of us who did not like Disney we could still get our animation from Universal Animation Studios.
The first commercial is a very good one for the series. It mostly uses segments from 5, but they are scattered throughout the first five films. Next is a commercial to Hercules and Xena: The Animated Movie. It is a horrible film, but the trailer is awesome. I am okay with the Chipmunks Adventure commercial.
There are plenty of changes for the series starting with this film. The box does not say MCA Universal, but the logo in the opening does. This is the first film of The Theme Era, first film directed by Charles Grosvenor, last one with Andrea Romano as the casting director, the first film written by John Loy solely (out of seven). The first one with Andi McCaffee as Cera’s actress, and the first without Candace Hutson voicing her. Aria Noelle Curzon replaces Heather Hogan as Ducky. Miriam Flynn replaces Linda Gary as Grandma Longneck. all of these actor changes are still around. I guess they wanted to keep Romano active until they replaced everyone. Scott McCaffee, Andi’s younger brother, was replaced by Brandon La Croix as Littlefoot’s voice (Wikipedia says his last name is one word, but the credits made it two words). Thomas Dekker would voice Littlefoot for the next four films, and he is the singing voice.
The Universal logo does not make its usual music, but the opening music for the beginning of the film. The narration has what appears to be a galaxy forming. It is a dark opening with two herbivores fighting for food until Chomper’s mom eats them. It opens with the main five characters first playfully fighting over the last tree star in their favorite tree, until it gets more serious. I do not know why they should fight with everything else they managed through. It includes a chase scene when it blows away, with very bad word to lip synchronization from Petrie. Mr. Clubtail who is voiced by Jeff Bennet instead of Rob Paulsen in The Later Day Sequels gets it.
I really should add this. When I was younger this was my absolute favorite movie. I have seen this at least fifty times, and can quote most of the dialogue. As the usual voice of wisdom Grandpa gets them to forget it based on that The Great Valley has so much food. That is until a plague of locusts (“Swarming leaf globbers”) comes. The opening before had an overly long foreshadowing, and was poor, but this is great to see. It helps completely end the believe that The Great Valley is Heaven (which is not supported in the original), and it is quite scary to see it come to ruin.
The Series is at its best with high stakes like 8 and 7 have. This increases it by putting the whole herd’s life at stake like 8 did but also intense conflict between them. With The Great Valley only having water the grown-ups meet in the same place as 3, and Grandpa points out the obvious. They actually only listen when Mr. Threehorn agrees, as them agreeing is a real shocker. Grandpa says they must leave, which shocks the others except Mr. Threehorn. He says all of them are from The Mysterious Beyond originally. The main characters fear they are dividing into herds, but the grown-ups decide to stay in one big herd (It was revealed in 7 that is how they arrived, but the young ones do not know that).
The new actors are currently doing perfectly fine. Hutson was not a good singer, but McCaffee is. La Croix is not great, but he is doing perfectly fine. Dekker does a great job at impersonating him as a singer. Ducky and Cera’s new actresses give new youth to the voices.
For the only time in the sequels the narrator narrates at the middle of the film explaining how they have found nothing. It is also hard to tell if they are going through the jungle or rainforest part of The Mysterious Beyond. They find a dead duck bill. Grandpa says it was traveling from the opposite direction, thus it has no food. Mr. Threehorn says it walked in circles. Surprisingly many agree with Mr. Threehorn. In 11 I understand that, but this is just two movies after 3. He insults duck bills making them mad. Littlefoot and Cera then fight. For a while I thought this was a bad scene, until I realized it is all justified from their exhaustion and hunger. The herds decide to split up, but at night the main characters leave.
Their plan is to get the grown-ups to stay together by following them. The grown ups owe them a life debt from 3, making this a very good plan. They eventually find a huge ocean, and humorously spit it out. Even Littlefoot then wants to give up until Spike finds a green island, and Petrie points out a convenient land bridge. Apparently it is guarded by the tsunami goddess, which attacks them with Spike at the back. It is a very good action scene. They are happy to be with food until they realize the land bridge was destroyed. The grownups followed their footprints and assume they are down the ocean.
The group sings the song “Big Water” about how much it scares them. As a kid my brother and I loved this. Today I do not care for the words, but I love the visuals. The next plan is from Cera, use a log to float home. It works well until…
I have been told it is the most realistically drawn animal in the series. The swimming sharptooth is very scary, and this is a great action scene. Petrie’s reactions are the best. Also a piranha tries to eat Ducky to foreshadow it earlier. They finally get back to the island just to hear a walking sharptooth on the island.
Grandpa is giving up hope on finding Littlefoot. On the island something keeps resembling a sharptooth including a rock perfectly shaped like on (a dark call back to the original). They sing “Always There.” I really love this song, as it has very good sad parts from all the four singers including Littlefoot singing about his mother. The next night they are scared by a shadowy sharptooth. Nothing is scarier, so they keep it hidden, which is a nice different touch.
It is actually Chomper from 2. This is great. Until we are reminded about sharpteeth. How does he speak leaf eater? He was raised by them, so of course he is bilingual. He is sure his parents will love them as friends, but the main characters disagree and hide like squirrels from a dog. Littlefoot thinks they are intelligent, which Cera doubts. Littlefoot is shown to be right, and they interpret Chomper as joking and say his friends would be good dessert. They also get excited when they smell Longneck until Chomper stops them from tracking them down by claiming it is his breath from eating longneck earlier.
After they leave a Giganotosaurus shows up. He sniffs out their old hiding spot and eats it. Frank Welker is wonderful in this film. His earlier conversation had so many emotions all portrayed through roars, and his portrayal of giganotosaurus is far more vicious than ma or pa sharptooth. In a side plot Ducky nearly dies by leaving the group, which further shows how besides Littlefoot they distrust Chomper. I like how they gave Chomper pectoral muscles to help us think he could kill them, but I do not like how he has three fingers instead of two like his parents. His hiding spot is full of stinky flowers to keep them safe. He gets them food during the song “Friends for Dinner.” It is the least good song in the film, but still good. He gathers “anything he wouldn’t eat.” His parents see him and “…worry about that boy.” Littlefoot still defends him, while the others half joke about him eating them. It helps show that they are from two completely different worlds that naturally do not go together well. Basically a friendship that cannot stay close, but Littlefoot and Chomper are determined to make it last. They love Chomper’s food, but Cera accuses Littlefoot of offering his foot to Chomper. I guess the journey through the mist left Cera paranoid. Chomper leaves crying, and the others agree he will turn on them eventually. Littlefoot rushes to apologize.
After Ma sharptooth gives some surprising and needed comic relief Chomper and Littlefoot agree that they are very different, but can still be friends. Chomper knows they took care of him at a young age and wants to return the favor, but Littlefoot knows they have to leave at some point, and he gives Chomper the point while staying very nice and appreciative.
When Littlefoot gets back to the hideout the Giganotosaurus attacks. It results in a very dramatic and fast paced chase scene, until they are trapped on a little peninsula with the swimming sharptooth in the water below. All looks bad until Chomper bites his tail, and Cera charges to keep his attention off Chomper. He then bites his own tail trying to get Chomper. Eventually Chomper is trapped too until…
Sharpteeth to the rescue for sharpteeth vs. sharpteeth battle. Same general length. T-Rex is 7 tons. Gigantosaurus is 8. Gigantosaurus could run and jump better (I have also heard contradictory reports to the gigantosaurus’s advantages). T-Rex has better mouth. I think the T-Rex has better arms for fighting a big theropod giving it the advantage, as T-Rex arms were more fexible than most theropods giving them superior reach. They are designed to beat big dinosaurs by holding them still. Most theropods had inflexible arms that would claw up small dinosaurs, thus I think a T-Rex wins. The parents do a strategy of tire it out by going one at a time. Gigantosaurus and pa fight until…
Sure the blood vanishes later, but this is great. With a T-Rex’s jaw biting it there I think Giganotosaurus has a broken chest. He fights Ma despite his busted pectorals and more blood. She is now nearly down, but Papa hits him in the head with his tail and sends him over the edge, but he knocks Chomper in. Mama gets up and howls in fear and later anger. Littlefoot realizes that if Chomper is not saved not only does he lose a friend but the sharpteeth will kill them all, for he jumps in after Chomper with Giganotosaurus still trying to eat them until he floats away with all of his broken bones and knowing he is crippled for life. It looks good then.
Then the swimming sharptooth shows back up, only to be a friendly swimmer (not the shark from earlier) who gets them up, and can get them home. Chomper still wants them to stay, and his parents promise to keep them safe, but it is obvious even they have doubts about being able to keep the promise. In a bitter-sweet ending (partly ruined by the TV series and 14) they leave and make a very sweet reunion with their families, as the instrumentals to “Always There” play. I know “If We Hold On Together” was played at least once, but it was never notable.
I still love this film. As an adult not as much as 7, but as the target audience way more. The Theme Era is the new top era. This film has great scenes, lovable guest characters, an intimidating villain and intimidating sub-villains and heroes. Besides Petrie everyone got a role. The lesson is that despite friendships having to end due to circumstances the friends will always be true friends to each other by doing what is best for the other. This film also gives a superior closure to Chomper than 2 does.
The new climax ranking is 5, 6, 10, 7, 14, 11, 12, 8, 9, 13
The best songs are now 1. Very Important Creature (7) 2. Beyond the Mysterious Beyond (7) 3. Bestest friends (10) 4. Always There (5) 5. Big Water (5) 6. The Lesson (8) 7. Family (8) 8. Adventuring (10). 9. flip, Flap, Fly (12). 10. How do You Know (13). 11. On You’re Own (6) 12. Chanson D’ Ennui (9).
The new running time order is 10 (85 minutes), 14 (82 minutes) 12/11 (81 minutes each), 6 (77 minutes) 13 (76 minutes), 9/8/7 (75 minutes each), 5 (74 minutes)
The new film rankings are 5, 7, 6, 10, 8, 14, 12, 11, 9, 13. It was close for the top spot.
Between my entire family I think this is the one we watched the most. It is directed by Charles Grosvenor, written by John Loy and Libby Hinson, edited by Jay Bixsen, and it is the first time Thomas Decker is Littlefoot’s sole actor. It is the last time there is no CG. Speaking of that the later films have great CG. Most films in that time had characters that looked so plastic and ugly, and for The Land Before Time that was never the case. Unlike the other films this was made to be the last in the franchise, which explains why they slowly brought the group back together starting with The Stone of Cold Fire (7). This is the first film that had Susan Blu being the casting director.
First this has some great commercials. One is a family pack. It include We’re Back a Dinosaur’s story. It has really bad animation. I really enjoy the joint commercial for the An American Tail movies. It also has a quick commercial for 3 that makes it and 2 look like a two part trilogy. I do not like the Paulie commercial, which makes it look like there is way more gross humor than it had. It ends with a great commercial for the entire Land Before Time series.
Like 7, instead of John Ingle narrating a character does it. Grandpa is telling them about the beginning of time, but presents it as a mystery. He then seemingly contradicts himself from The Mysterious Island (5), when he says there were dinosaurs in The Great Valley long ago, while he earlier said all of them lived in the Mysterious Beyond recently. It is simply explained by that the past group left for some reason. It makes sense based on doc contradicting Pterano in 7 by saying some valleys are just as good as The Great Valley. In Grandpa’s story for the only time in the franchise an entire herd flees from “The biggest, meanest, most ferocious sharptooth ever.” Some fans have wondered if it is the sharptooth from the original based on a similar design and making an entire herd flee. It seemingly has the constitution of him, but I think this is from well before then like when they first noticed Saurusrock. Original sharptooth may be ancient, so I like to think this theory is true. I think the Saurusrock part is fictional within the story, since it is later shown to be outside of the great valley. A little plot hole with the Lone Dinosaur is he should have shown up in 2 and 11, except for the likely belief that the Lone Dinosaur is real, but more mortal. The scene overall is very good. It is cool seeing the lone dinosaur use his tail like a rope (Lone Ranger style) instead of a whip and the sharptooth head butting him. Also Frank Welker quit trying so hard later, but his acting is incredible. So much pain and fear in just speaking in roars.
We are introduced to Sarah’s nephews, Dinah and Dana. My family always thought they were fine characters who helped the plot without taking up much time, but I know the general online fan base hates them. Sarah is in charge of watching them. I guess at least one of her sisters did survive. Littlefoot really got into the story, and his dream about it is very funny, mainly for the sharptooth being horrified of him.
Again Frank Welker’s acting is terrific as he communicates pain in roar in a completely different way than last time. I am sure in Littlefoot’s dream he is picturing that as the sharptooth who killed his mother, and this is why he idolizes someone who can wipe out sharpteeth whenever needed.
After that it is shown to be Fall, which Mr. Threehorn seems to think means death, and he is mad they are playing with the falling tree stars. Grandpa defends them, which I am sure will have nothing to do with the theme later. They play a game, and it is mentioned Cera is always the bad guy. In 2 Spike did volunteer, so I guess she is exaggerating. In the game Littlefoot falls off a log and a longneck named Doc saves him. Until The Great Longneck Migration (10) many fans thought Doc was Littlefoot’s father. The part about Mr. Threehorn wanting him gone and Grandpa defending him seems to be insignificant, but again it adds to the theme about a hero in your own family, and sometimes that is helping another hero. After meeting Doc Littlefoot thinks he is the lone dinosaur. In one of the few so bad it’s good scenes at the same time. Cera gets stuck in a bubble, and Petrie saves her. While angry she tells her nieces to get lost, as tt gets to the main problem here. Many times it seems too much time is dedicated to showing their daily lives. Littlefoot sings the song “Lone Dinosaur.” It is considered a love it or hate it, and I am neutral. The songs here have a western theme similar to the sci-fi theme of 7. To give a breakdown Littlefoot thinks Doc is the lone dinosaur. Cera gets the others to doubt it saying Grandpa’s story was from a long time ago, and everyone from it is dead, but she then starts to doubt. They later realize Dinah and Dana left for Saurusrock.
I should probably be upset the tiny nibblings accidently escaped a sharptooth, but I felt that a one time deal was okay, if it was a threat every other time. Throughout the movie the characters are shown the same rocks three times. It helps bring the focus to the mood. First it is playful. Then it is mysterious, and the last one is later. The regular group arriving has too much filler, but it is nice seeing them talk about prehistoric redwood trees, and seeing them flee from the sharptooth. I also appreciate not using a T-Rex to give a different design. They escape the same way as in Scooby-Doo and the Cyberchase by using the thick trees. They find Saurusrock, and here is another problem. Littlefoot does nothing in getting the twins down, but seeing saurusrock up close makes the entire group a little more sure that he is the Lone Dinosaur. A tooth rock from it falls, and Grandpa earlier said it breaking would make bad luck befall The Great Valley. On the way back they are chased by the sharptoot, and this chase is really good. It ends with them crossing a log over a cliff. Contrary to what Cera said in 7 she is in the front and Spike is in the back with Littlefoot and Petrie saving him. They barely get him out in a slow dramatic scene and the sharptooth falls down the cliff.
Mr. Threehorn figures out where his great nieces were, and he is incredibly unhappy with Cera. The rest of them start to think its bad luck. When Ducky says “dinosaur” I always wonder if this is the only film in the series where someone besides the narrator says the word. In a contrast to earlier Littlefoot’s dream is now a nightmare. He is convinced it is bad luck. Ducky and Spike now believe after getting injured, and apparently leaves are the bandages. Petrie does not believe. Cera does not either, and they sing about it ignoring a volcanic eruption in the distance. I actually really enjoy this song. It has some good references to the first one. Spike singing is another good thing. Afterwards the best watering hole has dried up. It does mess with the drought in 3’s logic, but I never think of that after the movie is over, and it can be explained as them finding a new watering hole due to the last one nearly drying up. To add to this logic the third one happened well before the entire valley was explored.
Littlefoot asks Doc about bad luck. He believes and says to change what is possible and for everything else leave for greener pastures. It shows him not being a good fit for Littlefoot, which makes me think he was never written to be his dad. Then we get our main natural disaster of the film, a tornado. Cera gets the twins to safety, but Grandpa cannot find Littlefoot who gets saved by Doc. This is a slow dramatic scene, but the film does need more fast paced action. The faster parts of it are the best, which keep it from feeling too much like the log chase earlier.
While cleaning up Mr. Threehorn and the other dinosaurs minus Grandpa think Doc is bad luck. They discuss it while he is cleaning very well making it come off even worse. Grandpa defends him, and then Littlefoot comes in very angry. In a nice touch he calls him “The only one [hero] I ever met.” Most shows would have given away the ending by showing Grandpa upset right there, but this series waits a whole ten seconds to get a more subtle foreshadowing. Only Littlefoot really cares about him leaving due to the others knowing he would have anyway, so Littlefoot leaves alone. The rest of the group does eventually conclude he is right about them causing bad luck, and that it exists and only Grandpa is against the notion of luck.
Littlefoot then sings the best song in the film, “When You’re on Your Own.” It has a spiritual successor in 14. It captures both the fear and joy of being alone, and makes a change in him realizing he does not really want to do it. He finds the sharptooth from earlier, and he explains his plan to the audience as he does it, get tooth, put it on Saurusrock, and Doc can stay not knowing Doc is right then leaving since he is a wanderer. Littlefoot’s friends figure out what is going on and go to grandpa for help. When he climbs the rocks the mood is now tiring and unfamiliar, which is what Grandpa is. He has actually never been to Saurusrock, and he regrets telling them about it. Like 7, a lot of this film is dealing with your heroes.
There are several times it looks like there should be foreshadowing that the sharptooth is alive, which never comes. That makes is final reveal even scarier, and it wakes up when Littlefoot is inside its mouth. I earlier said this film had a better climax than 10, and I stick to it. Unlike the slower scenes from earlier this chase scene and fight is quick and dark. It includes Littlefoot escaping for…
The same sharptooth from the legend showing up? I love this ambiguity. A shadow then comes to the rescue, which Littlefoot thinks is Doc, but it is Grandpa. I have not praised the fight scenes much since ten, but this is great to see. Forget tail swings being the top weapon. Grandpa uses his tail to hold him still to head-butt him. Then the other sharptooth comes. This is great. Unlike 10, there are no longneck reinforcements waiting, and dark sharptooth uses the distraction to kick Grandpa to the ground, only for Doc to take out brown sharptooth with the same move The Lone Dinosaur used in the legend. After taking out dark sharptooth with a head-butt Grandpa and Doc fight them two versus two. This is great. No wonder we watched this so much.
With the sharpteeth defeated (likely dead) Doc leaves. Littlefoot tells him to stay near the valley in case they need a hero. “You already got a hero kid.” Doc says while looking at Grandpa (picking up Cera by the scruff of her neck?)
This does not hold up so well as an adult due to the filler, but it is the most memorable of the series. It has a great climax and ambiguity. I personally do not think Doc is The Lone Dinosaur by the way. This is great.
The new climax ranking is 6, 10, 7, 14, 11, 12, 8, 9, 13
The best songs are now 1. Very Important Creature (7) 2. Beyond the Mysterious Beyond (7) 3. Bestest friends (10) 24 “The Lesson (8) 5. “Family (8) 6. Adventuring (10). 7. flip, Flap, Fly (12). 8. How do You Know (13). 9. “On You’re Own” (6) 10. Chanson D’ Ennui (9).
The new running time order is 10 (85 minutes), 14 (82 minutes) 12/11 (81 minutes each), 6 (77 minutes) 13 (76 minutes), 9/8/7 (75 minutes each)
The new film rankings are 7, 6, 10, 8, 14, 12, 11, 9, 13. Despite being number 2 six was not considered for the top spot.
As a young one myself I am the only one in my family who liked this one. Then I got older and ended up loving it more. Charles Grosvenor is again the director. Lee Uhley is the writer, and it is the only one he wrote. Like The Big Freeze (8) Danik Thomas instead of Jay Bixsen is the editor. This is the last film in the theme era, which focuses heavily on your heroes letting you down and dealing with it. It was a great idea to use this after The Secret of Saurus Rock (6), which focused on heroism in a different way.
Like in The Mysterious Island (5),and my 1997 copy of the original it has a trailer for the first five films, but it is extended to mention 7 (a little pointless) and show 6. It also includes the second sing along by advertising “The Lone Dinosaur” from 6 and “Songs from An American Tail I and II.” I did not know this, but the song they are playing is actually from the third film. The commercial for The Life and Adventure of Santa Claus is very good, but I doubt the term “instant classic” and the “real story” includes fairy looking creatures. The Road to el Dorado has a very funny commercial. The one for Joseph: King of Dreams does not. Both are fine movies. The commercial for An American Tail 4 is not good. I consider it to be t the same level as the second film in the series.
Like 6 John Ingle does not narrate, but Petrie is the narrator. Instead of praising the dinosaurs as usual he goes further back by saying there was no Threehorn, longneck, “not even sharptooth.” The last part reveals that they think the sharptooth came first interestingly. The oldest creature and most important is the flyer. Cera interrupts and…
The animation is a little different from the other films, and it took me a few minutes to get used to it. Cera instantly questions it. Cera and Petrie are very hostile for the beginning of this film. Petrie reveals his source is uncle Pterano. I used to think his uncle’s name was Toronto. Thank you Pterano for helping me to memorize the major events of the War of 1812. Back on subject Cera then says Mr. Threehorn taught her he was kicked out of the herd. Considering Mr. Threehorn refused to tell her any details it actually makes Petrie seem more believable here except for his anger filled reaction, and it is odd seeing Petrie like that. Ducky is much nicer to Petrie than Cera right there. I still do not see much point to them watching the far walkers other than giving an excuse for Petrie and Cera to fight a little more, and an excuse for the villains to arrive.
You can just make them out in the later shots. Strangely Littlefoot has not had a story arc yet. He wakes up in the night to see a comet. I think this should make some problems, but not really.
He tells Grandma and Grandpa and word somehow get around making the far walkers scared, so the rest of the Great Valley’s residents want it cleared up. They are happy with the idea that it is a flying rock (despite a previous group nearly killing all of them in 3), but Littlefoot tells them that it was flying lower, had a tail, and was blue. The animators did do a good job at making it look different from the asteroids in The Time of the Great Giving (3). We then get to a part I really love. A spiketail (not Mr. Clubtail) did not see it and dismisses it and then the rainbow faces come in.
They are even better than Mr. Thicknose. They dissect his reasoning as “If they cannot see it with their own two eyes it doesn’t exist. What limited thinking.” Even better is the comedic (but playful and questioning) music Michael Tavera uses making them seem even odder. As a conspiracy theorist I love seeing them outsmart them. Mr. Threehorn calls their idea that it was an extraordinary stone “impossible.” They respond by asking him if he already knows everything (explored in a different way in 8). He foolishly responds with “yes.” They have the perfect counter. “Why The Mysterious Beyond. Why not The Boing Beyond, or ooh, The Nothing of Interest to me Hear Beyond.” Besides being funny even for the fiftieth time this line is very smart. The Great Valley dinosaurs are calling what they fear mysterious, yet insist they know about space and their conventional believes are all true. Take that nellie Brie. The rainbow faces start the first song, “Beyond the Mysterious Beyond.” As a conspiracy theorist this really appeals to me. They discuss just how many mysteries there are and how odd the Earth is, and that solving mysteries just leads to more mysteries. Littelfoot joins in supporting them, and Cera joins in against them. I really like how the male rainbow face holds an atom in one part. After the song Grandpa reacts how any one would, confused that someone just sang an odd point. They make the case that it is a magical stone of cold fire. It can do miracles and it has messages from beyond The Mysterious Beyond. Mr. Threehorn ends it by giving a very conventional argument and it works. I guess warding off annoying guests is how he is still a major leader in The Great Valley. Grandpa convinces Littlefoot not to mention it to their superstitious guests, but he can talk about it to Grandpa.
The group ultimately has different opinions. Littlefoot acknowledges it makes little sense, but he knows it is different from the previous flying rocks. Ducky just thinks it is contradictory, but she wants to believe it. Petrie thinks it is too spooky. Cera would only believe it if she could see it, and then who comes in but Pterano.
It took me a while to figure out why he is so creepy in his opening scene, until I realized they are making him subtly resemble a fallen angel. He is a very popular character. Michael York does a great job voicing him, and he even makes his voice resemble Tim Curry, while staying something else. He subtly insults the other grown-ups, and he offers to help find the stone. His hench flyers come in being more obviously evil, and he proceeds to knock them both over. The rest of the group pretends to hear their parents calling, and they leave. One flyer is Sierra (Jim Cummings). He is aggressively trying to make sure they find the stone faster. Rinkus is played by Rob Paulsen. as a reference to Pinky and the Brain he is pink, which is great. It is nice seeing an evil pink male for a change, and it makes it seem like he is the most moral making his evil moments more shocking.
Littlefoot tells his grandparents that he meant Pterano, and he feels ashamed for not liking him, until the series reaches a first. Even Grandpa Longneck hates him. This is very surprising. A cut after shows Pterano telling Petrie and his siblings a time when he fought a sharptooth, which further shows Petrie idolizing him. To help prove himself to his uncle Petrie gets Littlefoot to tell him where the stone landed. To recap everyone’s positions
Littlefoot- Wants to find stone. He is worried Petrie will leave with his uncle.
Cera- does not want to find stone. She feels like Petrie chose his uncle over them and should leave with him.
Petrie- feels like his friends have turned on his hero and himself.
Rest of the Great Valley- Hate the stone and Pterano.
Ducky is the anti-Pterano. Pterano’s main flaw is he does not take responsibility for his actions due to his arrogance. Ducky realizes she has hurt Petrie and goes to apologize. On the way she overhears the fliers. We get our fist look that Pterano is likely the most good of them. Sierra is just mad that they are not already going. Pterano says leaving early will make everyone else think they are up to no good, which Rinkus considers them to be. Since it can get confusing I will remind you that Sierra is the brown one and Rinkus is the pink one. Pterano insists the others just never knew his greatness. He also says he will use the stone to take over The Great Valley. If you have that power and a desire to rule why not.
Sierra is actually a good hench flyer, and he catches Ducky spying. Thus the fliers leave early with Ducky as hostage. Not known for their intelligence the other dinosaurs except Littlefoot and Petrie think it is a sharptooth attack. Who is on guard duty? Littlefoot tells Petrie who turns on his friend and for a little while it looks like he will poke his eyes out until his mom tells him it is Pterano taking Ducky. After briefly showing Petrie crying (first time in the franchise) he chases his uncle. It was a great move to focus on heroes failing you after a film on finding heroes. It really helps to make this a sad scene. In a very good part for Pterano Rinkus knocks Petrie out of the air (after he gets the hostage situation details), and Pterano whips him for being violent and of course doubting Pterano’s non-violent behavior. I think this was the first time I heard the word, “violence.”
Back at the same meeting place as 8 Ducky’s mom wants them to go save her. Petrie’s mom is looking on the bright side saying her brother will make sure no harm comes to Ducky. Mr. Threehorn is heavily looking on the dark side. It also becomes apparent based on information here and earlier that about every grown-up knew Pterano was talking to the children except Mr. Threehorn, a smart call from Grandpa I assume. Grandpa also concludes he would never have left for the stone if Petrie could not get him the important information, thus they should have told them about why Pterano left the herd.
The flashback scene is very good. It has confused a few fans over whether the sharptooth attack is just them imagining it or real. Considering Pterano is implied to have said what happened, and he had his own flashback and memory of it. For one they gave the first usage of velociraptors since 3. Tavera did a good job scoring it. It also gives quite the backstory for why even Grandpa hates Pterano. It is also important with how Petrie defends Pterano the whole time. He finally concedes about his uncle’s evilness when it is pointed out he could never accept the blame.
With the grown-ups too busy arguing Spike heads after Ducky (he will show this type of initiative again in 14). The rainbow faces watch approvingly. At the same time the fliers land… Well crash. Ducky gets away, probably knowing Pterano does not want her harmed making the consequences much less, but she falls down a hole. Pterano is sad about someone he was in charge of dying, but Sierra mock comforts him by saying how he should be used those he is in charge of dying. The rest of the gang gets to the vines, which they have to cross over. In the film’s first real flaw Cera says she is always at the back, and everyone else backs her up. In 6 Littlefoot and Spike were at the back. Same in 5. In 4 Ducky was in the back. Spike and Ducky in 3. In 12 Littlefoot. I think Cera is always in the front. In short they get across and by a big coincidence find Ducky.
After Ducky defends Pterano we get to song number two, “Good Inside.” It is okay, but dull. It does confirm that Littlefoot is pink, but I have realized it really affected my morals. When I heard Lance Armstrong was guilty of duping I did not care. I hear about King David’s sins, and I think he was still a man after God’s own heart. I think it might be because of this movie that I still see heroes as heroes, rather than sinners. After the song the fliers again grab Ducky, but she gets away by biting Sierra. I can not blame her for waiting since doing it earlier would put her over a mountain and death. It results in a rather exciting chase scene partly due to Littlefoot really getting into the trash talking to distract Rinkus and Sierra and also due to them grabbing Pterano making it very clear that he is not really in charge. Littlefoot outsmarting them is important to his arc with the rainbow faces. Petrie notices and is surprised Pterano stays with them. Pterano is so arrogant he assumes a small lecture will put them back in place. It also uses “If We Hold On Together” which makes every scene better.
In a huge storm the fliers crash again (like last time it is played for both drama and comedy). Pterano is hoping the children are okay, but Sierra talks about how he will feed them to sharpteeth, which hits a real sore spot for Pterano he banishes them from him finally and sings “Very Important Creature.” When I was first a film nerd I thought villain songs were too one dimensional. This changed my mind. It makes Pterano comes off as more arrogant and hateable, more pitiful and rootable, smarter and dumber. It is such a wonderful mix of thoughts coming to me. Too add to the greatness Michael York sings it really well, Sierra trying to kill him and Rinkus slowly agreeing is funny like when Rinkus says “let him lead us to the stone.” Wait, what? The pink villain is the most evil. This is a wonderful twist I did not see coming even sierra’s puns are now funny and scary. They even regain Pterano’s trust by simply sucking up to him as they literally plot behind his back.
At the same time our heroes find the bottom of the mountain with the stone. They go to sleep an wake up to find a huge pile of food, and they then see a rainbow face. They chase him with music from An American Tail 4 playing. He is stopped by the female. She is mad he helped them, but since they are aware the rainbow faces are there they help them get to the top with gas pressure, and Littlefoot is even able to tell what they are planning. When they are asked questions about how they know it they use a new catch phrase, “that would be telling.” After they get up Cera saves Petrie from a rock to resolve their arc that we were no longer remembering. In its defense it takes up little time, and someone would have been mad if it was unresolved.
They find the stone using its marks and how the dirt is facing a direction, but the fliers arrive. Pterano goes to get the power, and I guess the fliers are thinking if something bad happens he will die, but I would still suggest turning on him now. Pterano messes with the stone, and the scene is dramatic enough to make me wonder if something will happen. Nothing happens which is not disappointed, due to how heart broken Pterano is and I care about Pterano. Rinkus and Sierra become more threatening and then more comical, as they hit the comet with rocks like mad fliers. “You no need to fix, just not break.” Petrie comforts Pterano by saying they the paradise he wants to make already exists, but the volcano starts to erupt. The shaking makes Duck fall of a cliff, and I guess Petrie is too preoccupied in getting his uncle pardoned to notice. Fortunately Pterano saves her (it was spoiled on the back cover of the box). Petrie’s mom arrives to help save everyone else, as “If we Hold on Together” plays , and the main villains are nearly killed by the explosion. Back in the Great Valley Mr. Threehorn who earlier took responsibility for making the group decide too slow so the children left, and Pterano have finally learned to take responsibility. Since he saved Ducky his punishment is reduced from life banishment to banishment for five cold times (three have been verified to pass as of 14). Petrie is the most disappointed, but Pterano then truly acts like the loving uncle he is even at his worst. He vows to come back as a valuable member after his punishment is finished, but Mr. Threehorn hurries up his banishment by chasing him away. Petrie sadly waves as he leaves. It is a very good scene. Afterwards Littlefoot runs into the rainbow faces. They basically reveal that the Stone was just a test for how he would react and praise his intelligence from asking questions. No wonder I value people who question life so much. They then reprise “Beyond the Mysterious Beyond” (also reprised with just instruments in the credits). Then a tractor beam takes them and Littlefoot sees a spaceship leave. I love this idea. It even is better than putting magic in the series.
I love this movie. Pterano is wonderful. Littlefoot and Petrie have such great stories. This has terrific songs. Ducky, Cera, and Spike all have really good parts giving this film the best job of using all five of all fourteen movies. The scary parts are good, the sad parts are sad. As an adult this is the best of the sequels.
The new climax ranking is 10, 7, 14, 11, 12, 8, 9, 13
The best songs are now 1. Very Important Creature (7) 2. Beyond the Mysterious Beyond (7) 3. Bestest friends (10) 24 “The Lesson (8) 5. “Family (8) 6. Adventuring (10). 7. flip, Flap, Fly (12). 8. How do You Know (13). 9. Chanson D’ Ennui (9). 10. “Things Change (12).
The new running time order is 10 (85 minutes), 14 (82 minutes) 12/11 (81 minutes each), 13 (76 minutes), 9/8/7 (75 minutes each)
The new film rankings are 7, 10, 8, 14, 12, 11, 9, 13. 7 is now number one, and it is not close.
This is a film I watched very often. It is the first time A Land Before Time film was hyped to me before I saw it, and it had nothing to do with snow, so I knew it had to deal with internal conflict. This is the first of the Full CG era, but it is also similar to the Theme Era. Besides Journey to Big Water (9) this is the last film in the series I had in VHS. This is the first sequel to not use roman numerals in the title (on the box), the first film written solely by John Loy since The Mysterious Island (5), and it is the fifth film directed by Charles Grosvenor.
For the previews I did not really care for Beethoven’s 4th, but it has a great trailer, that made me excited to see it. The commercial for Balto II is not good. Most of the film felt like it worked better in the trailer than the film. I remember not being able to tell Maizy’s gender from the commercials. The Universal Theme Parks commercial is really good. I think at least four films in the series have a commercial to Dr. Seuss’s How the Grinch Stole Christmas.
I really enjoy the opening with the sun shown heating a planet and John Ingle narrating for the first time in three films. “A planet full of constant change and unpredictable weather, our home.” It also shows some small dinosaurs escaping a big sharptooth (resembling Chomper’s mom except the neck is far les detailed) and he is far from a super persistent predator. Then the internal conflict begins with Ducky getting mad at Spike for simple sibling reasons. It is hard to find dinosaurs relatable but they did it here.
After this we get to arguably the best guest character in the series, Mr. Thicknose. He is talking in a very sing song manner since he has told this same story over and over. His story is from so long ago no one can remember… Littlefoot points out the obvious issues. It was great to put this right after The Stone of cold fire (7), which greatly supported Littlefoot’s questioning nature. His actor, Thomas Dekker, is really good at acting like this, and it is funny seeing Mr. Thicknose try to explain, as only Littlefoot is interested. Then Littlefoot tests one of his stories to make a Chekov’s Gun and freak him out. Apparently no one else listens as closely as Littlefoot despite his tiny ears. Mr. Thicknose does not appreciate it. There is also more of Ducky getting mad at Spike due to sibling squabble, but Littlefoot’s and Mr. Thicknose’s problems are more interesting.
Sarah then tries to help Ducky express her feelings by letting anger out. Many fans have used this to say Cera is closest with Ducky besides Littlefoot, but besides here nothing supports that. When I was younger there were a few parts of “The Mad Song” I really enjoyed like turning blue and making eyes turn red. When I got older I stopped liking it. We then get back to the superior Littlefoot and Mr. Thicknose plot where Littlefoot overhears Mr. Thicknose (whom sees everything supposedly) say he is unrespectful. Littlefoot in a move of fridge brilliance that he is respectful thinks it must be either true or Mr. Thicknose has a problem with children. Grandpa then comes and this is my favorite part of Grandpa Longneck in the entire franchise. He knows option one is false since he knows Littlefoot. He knows option 2 is false, as Mr. Thicknose volunteers to be a teacher. He then tells his grandson exactly what is happening. He feels Littlefoot is somehow depriving him of his dignity, which is all he has.
Our third plot is introduced and it fits very good with plot number two. Spike starts to feel closer to a group of wandering spike tails than his own adopted family. Partly as Ducky is going out of her way to make Spike feel left out. The herd seems to like him for… I always presumed they liked seeing how someone born in a completely different culture has stayed very much a spiketail. It is a contradiction to say there are no other spiketails in The Great Valley, which I will try to explain as Ducky’s mom meaning none were the same coloring of Spike, thus his birth family.
For plot number four (yikes they really connected these well) Littlefoot finds snow, but when he tells it to Mr. Thicknose (more proof of his respect) he dismisses it as something that never comes to The Great Valley. That is until it is everywhere. They then meet at the exact same meeting place as in 7, a nice touch, where the plots meet. The snow has everyone confused. Ducky is mad at Spike for spending more time with the spiketails than her. The Spiketails know the answers instead of Mr. Thicknose, and the rest of the valley is mad at Mr. Thicknose for not telling them about this. A little plot hole is we would think Mr. Thicknose was more important in earlier films like what a comet is, what to do in a drought, or warning about a plague of locusts, so I presume he was more of the resident wiseman than a leader.
I enjoy The scenes of them playing even though it is odd that Ducky is happily playing with Spike. I remember I once lost a tooth when watching it. Even Mr. Threehorn joins in having a lot of fun. That is until the blizzard kills all the food, and this drives the valley further against Mr. Thicknose for not warning them (unlike the tornado he did not warn them about). How does the audience not think of that, by making Mr. Thicknose scared enough to distract them of course. Also with the blizzard killing all the food the spiketails are leaving, which to Petrie’s surprise makes Ducky very happy. She was earlier upset abut Spike spending the night with the spiketails. When they get there it is clear that she thinks the spiketails will just leave, but they offer Spike to join them, which would seem cruel, except it seems his survival skills are better there. Spike is torn and… Here is when I wonder why I rewatch these, as I can quote them by heart. Ducky orders him to leave, as she is angry at his conflict instead of immediately picking his family.
I have earlier said this is a mix between the Full CG era and the Theme Era. This has a heavy theme of family, and the next song is the most popular in the film, “Family.” Surprisingly it is not sung over the end credits (the original music from the end credits is used instead and the score from Pteranto’s flashbacks). I really love this song. It has good flashbacks to previous films. It also captures what it is like having siblings. After the song Ducky leaves to find Spike. The other three subconsciously make a Snow-Spike. When leaving they run into Mr. Thicknose. He blames Littlefoot a little for his fall from grace, but mostly himself. When he sees there are leaving The Great Valley he demands to go too. This does not make Cera happy due to his slowness. I do have to say that Petrie, Cera, and Littlefoot are working off each other really well giving some comic relief. We also get to see some foreshadowing that Mr. Thicknose has never left The Great Valley. Petrie accidently causes an avalanche that removes the doorway to The Great Valley.
Time to answer a question, How do Sharpteeth not get in The Great Valley when Leaf Eaters can? The sharpteeth could get in, but doing so would be suicide as anyone with the intelligence of a child could say. They would be killed by all the herbivores, due to numbers and there is only one place to enter removing any element of surprise. That is shown in both sharpteeth invasions in The Great Valley Adventure (2) and Invasion of the Tinysauruses (11). The only shown exception was “The biggest, meanest, most ferocious sharptooth ever.” After that Ducky is still looking for spike and a sharptooth finds her. When fleeing she runs into the others minus Spike. Mr. Thicknose is not helpful, and in the back but Littlefoot and Cera knock a huge snowball on him that knocks him unconscious. Besides some poor animation when Littlefoot calls for help this is a fine action scene. After that Ducky blames Cera for her predicament, but then she switches to herself. I like how this teaches self- analysis.
The next important part is that it is further shown how with the snow killing the food everyone is starving. We then get the snow cliché of falling on frozen water, but I like how it goes from funny, to scary, to happy. It is near an underground spring with warmth and most importantly food.
Most fans hate the final song, “The Lesson.” I actually really love it. I really enjoy seeing Mr. Thicknose’s explanation for his life. He heard and stole stories, and he loved how much it made everyone value him, and it was also helping most everyone. My only problems are sometimes Littlefoot’s voice sounds too girly and wondering how no one besides Littlefoot was asking about a few contradictions. After the song Mr. Thicknose remembers a few things he heard like a shortcut based on a mountain. When going up they get chased by the same sharptooth. This time Mr. Thicknose is in front and the two who saved the day last time, Littlefoot and Cera, are too close to it to save the day. He knocks a tree on it, which the sharptooth slides down on. For whatever reason my brother and I were fascinated by it. We made a drumstick a toy and constantly made it take out our toy sharpteeth like that. They then use anger correctly by yelling at the snow enough to make the snow blocking The Great Valley’s entrance fall. I do not like that Chekov’s gun, but I like the one where Littlefoot comes up with the idea from an old lesson from Mr. Thicknose.
The Spiketails they are terribly lost until Spike smells the food and leads the herd to the rest of the group. I also like how Mr. Threehorn has developed into giving credit where it is due.
Remaining plot is Spike falling through ice where the water is deep. He cannot swim (he learned by The Great Longneck Migration). He is saved by Ducky’s mom. Some critics say the film did not really explore who Spike’s real family is, and they are right about this part, which is more notable for Spike saying his second word of the series, but they are wrong about the film. It goes into great length to show him not fitting into the Spiketail herd and missing the swimmers.
Overall I loved this at a young age and as an adult. It does not have an exciting climax, but it has really good internal conflict, good use of snow clichés and mixing it with disaster. I especially love Mr. Thicknose’s development to get more humble and less scared. Besides Petrie all five main characters have a major role.
The new climax ranking is 10, 14, 11, 12, 8, 9, 13
The best songs are now 1. Bestest friends (10) 2. “The Lesson (8) 3. “Family (8) 4. Adventuring (10). 5. flip, Flap, Fly (12). 6. How do You Know (13). 7. Chanson D’ Ennui (9). 8. “Things Change (12).
The new running time order is 10 (85 minutes), 14 (82 minutes) 12/11 (81 minutes each), 13 (76 minutes), 9/8 (75 minutes each)
The new film rankings are 10, 8, 14, 12, 11, 9, 13.